Introduction to the Global Health Scholars Program - Tennessee
November 06, 2024Information
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- 00:01Hi, everyone. I'm Kartik.
- 00:04Third year, in the primary
- 00:06care program here at Yale.
- 00:07And, yeah, I was very
- 00:09fortunate to be able to
- 00:10rotate in Grundy County, Tennessee
- 00:13as a second year,
- 00:15in spring.
- 00:16And I have a couple
- 00:18slides,
- 00:20that I'll go through. So
- 00:21Grundy County is basically in
- 00:23the southwest corner or southeast,
- 00:25excuse me, corner of of
- 00:26Tennessee. It's around, like, forty
- 00:28five minute drive from Chattanooga,
- 00:30kind of in the,
- 00:32like, southern end of of
- 00:34Appalachia,
- 00:35both, like, culturally and geographically.
- 00:38And, it's kind of located
- 00:40on a on a plateau.
- 00:41So,
- 00:42a lot of residents,
- 00:43kind of live on this
- 00:44mountain plateau and and culturally,
- 00:48kind of feels a little
- 00:49different from,
- 00:50like, the the lower areas.
- 00:52So you'll find, like, a
- 00:53lot of patients sometimes.
- 00:55They, like, consider the plateau
- 00:56as their home and can
- 00:57be a little hesitant to
- 00:59go off of that.
- 01:00But so while I was
- 01:01there, I rotated at a
- 01:03couple different clinics.
- 01:05One of them was,
- 01:06kind of, like, similar to
- 01:08a,
- 01:08like, more, like, primary care
- 01:10clinic you might find in
- 01:11the northeast.
- 01:13So I won't talk about
- 01:14that as much.
- 01:15But the the
- 01:17one of the clinics I
- 01:18was at, Tracy City Free
- 01:19Clinic,
- 01:20it was basically within a
- 01:21a community center started by
- 01:23this,
- 01:24local community advocate, Emily Parton.
- 01:28And and they basically,
- 01:31or I I should say,
- 01:32like,
- 01:33the overall, like, Tennessee is
- 01:34one of, like, ten states
- 01:36which hasn't expanded Medicaid.
- 01:39And there's there's around, like,
- 01:40fifteen percent of people in
- 01:42the county who are uninsured,
- 01:43but most patients in this
- 01:45clinic,
- 01:47were uninsured.
- 01:48That's why they were going
- 01:49to the free clinic.
- 01:50It's it's run by this,
- 01:51like, retired
- 01:52family medicine physician, doctor Phelps,
- 01:55and then his, like, friend
- 01:57who's a rheumatologist
- 01:58sometimes comes, I think, a
- 01:59couple days a month.
- 02:02And so I I was
- 02:03working with them.
- 02:05Usually, we would see around,
- 02:06like, four to six patients
- 02:08per day,
- 02:10and
- 02:11kind of similar. Like, I
- 02:12would see the patient and
- 02:13then,
- 02:14precept with them.
- 02:16I think the the
- 02:17the patient complexity was, like,
- 02:20higher than I was used
- 02:21to here,
- 02:22like, at at, like, Cornell
- 02:24Scott and PCC.
- 02:27I would I would say,
- 02:28like, the average or most
- 02:29most of the patients were
- 02:30kind of, like, in the
- 02:32top ten percent of complexity
- 02:34that you might find here
- 02:36at the PCC.
- 02:38But a lot of, like,
- 02:39chronic uncontrolled chronic diseases, like
- 02:41cardiac disease,
- 02:44psychiatric
- 02:45disease,
- 02:47Hep C,
- 02:49And, like, doctor Phelps here,
- 02:51has, like, really been a
- 02:52champion for hep c treatment,
- 02:54and so that this is,
- 02:55like, a excellent place to
- 02:57to learn about that.
- 03:00I I think it was
- 03:01it clinically,
- 03:03kind of, like, pushed me,
- 03:05in in terms of, like,
- 03:07seeing things that neither I
- 03:08nor my attending had seen
- 03:10before.
- 03:11So, like, patients,
- 03:12like, who who came in
- 03:13on insulin pump or,
- 03:16like, patients with bipolar disorder
- 03:18who needed,
- 03:19like, active management of their
- 03:21psychiatric meds.
- 03:23So so it's definitely,
- 03:24like a like a really
- 03:26challenging and also rewarding
- 03:28learning experience.
- 03:30And the other main clinic
- 03:32was, Bershba Springs, which is
- 03:35located in a in, like,
- 03:36a smaller,
- 03:38like, hamlet almost
- 03:39around, like, forty five minutes
- 03:41or so north of Tracy
- 03:43City.
- 03:44And and this, this is
- 03:46also a free clinic.
- 03:48Most of the patients here,
- 03:49again, uninsured.
- 03:52And as far as who
- 03:54you'll work with here,
- 03:56there's a nurse practitioner, Ashley,
- 03:59who's there a couple days
- 04:00a week, I think.
- 04:02The the attending,
- 04:03doctor Nick Pumiglia, he's actually
- 04:05a YPC,
- 04:07alum, and,
- 04:09he comes in person,
- 04:11on some of the days.
- 04:12But some days,
- 04:13you'll just see patients independently
- 04:15and then staff with him
- 04:16in the evening.
- 04:19There are also student
- 04:20volunteers and interns,
- 04:23and I was able to
- 04:24meet a couple of them.
- 04:25And,
- 04:26they kind of, like, shadowed
- 04:27me, and then I did
- 04:28some teaching with them, throughout
- 04:30my time here.
- 04:32And,
- 04:34in terms of the,
- 04:35the patient population, I would
- 04:37say here, the patients tend
- 04:39to be not quite as
- 04:40complex as at the Tracy
- 04:41City Medical Clinic,
- 04:43but,
- 04:44still, you'll see, like, a
- 04:45wide variety of cases.
- 04:48There there's some kids as
- 04:49well, which you can or
- 04:51you can choose to, like,
- 04:53not see depending on your
- 04:55comfort level.
- 04:57And,
- 04:58in terms of, like, the
- 04:59the logistics of the the
- 05:01clinic, I think this was,
- 05:02like, the really interesting
- 05:04part, because the the labs
- 05:05are all done on-site.
- 05:07Or they're collected on-site, but
- 05:09then sent off to Quest.
- 05:10And so we would, like,
- 05:11fill out these order forms,
- 05:13to indicate which labs we
- 05:15want done. And then if
- 05:17if you wanna order a
- 05:18specialized lab test, then you
- 05:19have to look through the
- 05:20Quest,
- 05:21like this, like, thick booklet
- 05:22and and indicate which,
- 05:25which test you want ordered.
- 05:27Then the the a lot
- 05:29of time also I spent,
- 05:31like, learning about medications and,
- 05:33different alternatives to common medications
- 05:36because the the medications,
- 05:38at both of these are
- 05:39given out at both of
- 05:40these clinics. They function as
- 05:42dispensaries.
- 05:44And the they come from
- 05:46Americares says donated medications. They
- 05:49come from private citizens who
- 05:51will donate unused medications.
- 05:53And then the clinics also
- 05:55have some funding which allows
- 05:57them to purchase a supply.
- 05:58And so there there's the
- 06:00in Bershava Springs, in some
- 06:01extent, Tracy's, the the medication
- 06:04in the dispensary are kind
- 06:05of broken out into three
- 06:06sections, and
- 06:08and they'll kind of, like,
- 06:10point you towards using the
- 06:11donated medications first and then
- 06:14only resorting to, like, the
- 06:15purchased medications
- 06:17if, if needed. And so
- 06:20a lot of times, the
- 06:21clinic would have a lot
- 06:22of, say, like, telmisartan,
- 06:24omesartan,
- 06:25but not have, like, the
- 06:26losartan or valsartan that we
- 06:28might be more used to
- 06:29prescribing here, things like that.
- 06:30And so
- 06:31and so there there was
- 06:32a lot of time that
- 06:34I spent just, like, in
- 06:35the dispensary looking at the
- 06:36various alternatives and trying to
- 06:38figure out based on what
- 06:39was available,
- 06:41and, like, based on,
- 06:43what wasn't available as you
- 06:45can see in this photo,
- 06:47what a good option might
- 06:48be for the patients.
- 06:50And then once we pick
- 06:51the medications, then the staff
- 06:53or,
- 06:54like, sometimes,
- 06:55like I or the other
- 06:56providers, depending on time, would,
- 06:59like, count out the pills,
- 07:01using this pill counter and
- 07:02then, write the the prescription
- 07:05for the patients kind of
- 07:06kind of like this.
- 07:08Like, I'm sorry to interrupt
- 07:09you. I don't see that
- 07:10you're sharing your slides. I
- 07:12thought you were gonna be
- 07:13sharing them at the end
- 07:13after you're done talking, but
- 07:14I don't see that you're
- 07:15sharing your screen.
- 07:18Oh, oh, shoot. Okay. I'm
- 07:19I'm sorry. I thought that
- 07:20was shared. My bad.
- 07:23Let me try that again.
- 07:49Okay. Can you all see
- 07:50that now? Perfect. Yep. Okay.
- 07:52Sorry about that.
- 07:54But here, let me just
- 07:55quickly show. So the the
- 07:57this is Tracy City free
- 07:58clinic. This is,
- 08:01Bershava Springs Medical Clinic. These
- 08:03are, like, the lab forms
- 08:04that we filled out.
- 08:06This is kind of, like,
- 08:08a photo from the the
- 08:09dispensary.
- 08:10And then these are, like,
- 08:11the some of the pill
- 08:12counters that we would use
- 08:13to to count out the
- 08:14medications.
- 08:18Let's see. But, yeah, I
- 08:19think I think those were
- 08:20the,
- 08:21kind of, like, the logistics.
- 08:22And then tray Tracy City
- 08:24free clinic also has, like,
- 08:25paper charting,
- 08:27because that that was kind
- 08:28of like a like a
- 08:30what what the the physician
- 08:31there was used to. And
- 08:32then, Bershia Pass Springs has
- 08:34its own,
- 08:36EMR, which is which,
- 08:37actually, I I enjoyed using
- 08:39quite a bit.
- 08:41And,
- 08:42yeah, in in terms
- 08:44of, I guess but before
- 08:46I get into this, I'll
- 08:47just talk about, like, my
- 08:49overall
- 08:50clinical reflections. I I think,
- 08:53it definitely, like, pushed my
- 08:54clinical skills quite a bit.
- 08:56I think in terms of
- 08:58people who are interested in
- 09:00procedures,
- 09:01there there is opportunity.
- 09:03There can be opportunity to
- 09:04do that, I think, particularly
- 09:06with the rheumatology,
- 09:08days. I I was only
- 09:10there for four weeks,
- 09:12since I did this as
- 09:13a private ambulatory rotation. But
- 09:14if someone's there for six
- 09:15weeks, I think there would
- 09:17be more opportunity.
- 09:19And then Tracy City also,
- 09:20like, the the physician,
- 09:22the the attending would would
- 09:23sometimes draw the labs himself,
- 09:25and and I I was
- 09:27not super comfortable with that.
- 09:28But if if you are,
- 09:29then that's that's something that
- 09:31that you could do as
- 09:32well.
- 09:34And,
- 09:35and and I think I
- 09:36think more more broadly,
- 09:38I think it it it
- 09:40was it was valuable in
- 09:41terms of, like, reflecting on
- 09:43on my own biases and
- 09:45then,
- 09:46and, like like, kind of,
- 09:48like,
- 09:49increased exposure to,
- 09:51people from Appalachia since this
- 09:53is not a region of
- 09:54the the country that I've
- 09:55spent a lot of time
- 09:56in before.
- 09:57And I I as, like,
- 09:58a person of color, was
- 09:59was worried about,
- 10:01racism,
- 10:02but
- 10:03found that that was not
- 10:04the case. And and,
- 10:06yeah, talking with other other,
- 10:08people of color rotated here,
- 10:10it sounds like that that
- 10:11was a similar experience for
- 10:13them. And so I think
- 10:14that that part was was
- 10:15really reassuring.
- 10:18And then I I think,
- 10:19overall,
- 10:20the rotation
- 10:22just, like, was was
- 10:24it, like, increased my
- 10:25interest in rural medicine and
- 10:28was just, like,
- 10:29yeah, overall, one of, like,
- 10:31the best rotations, I think,
- 10:33from my time here at,
- 10:34at YPC.
- 10:36In in terms of,
- 10:38fun things to do,
- 10:40there's, like, a lot of
- 10:42great hiking, lot of great
- 10:43country cooking nearby.
- 10:46And,
- 10:47I think one one of
- 10:48the weekends I ended up,
- 10:49like, being invited by my,
- 10:52like, landlady to attend her
- 10:54church,
- 10:55and got to meet some
- 10:56of the members of the
- 10:57congregation there, which was really
- 10:59cool since I had personally
- 11:00never been to a church
- 11:01before,
- 11:03and then ended up, like,
- 11:04helping one of the,
- 11:07like, local community members,
- 11:09with some repairs on on
- 11:11his RV.
- 11:12And so I think you
- 11:13you'll you'll kind of, like,
- 11:15find ways to, like, meet
- 11:17meet some of the community
- 11:18members outside of clinic to
- 11:20which can be really rewarding.
- 11:23And then I did also
- 11:24end up taking a weekend
- 11:25trip to to Birmingham while
- 11:26I was down there. That's,
- 11:28like, two and a half
- 11:29hours away. And then if
- 11:31you wanna take, like, weekend
- 11:32trips to, like, Atlanta or
- 11:33Nashville, those are all, like,
- 11:35one and a half, two
- 11:36hours away.
- 11:38Yeah. So, overall, would would
- 11:39highly recommend,
- 11:41this rotation,
- 11:42both for, like, learning about
- 11:44rural medicine and then also
- 11:45just,
- 11:47direct the cultural experience in
- 11:48general.
- 11:49But, yeah, happy to take
- 11:50any any questions in the