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OAPD - Letters Of Evaluation for Appointment and Promotion

March 12, 2026
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  • 00:00This is our latest in
  • 00:02series of of, presentations
  • 00:04on different aspects
  • 00:05of the,
  • 00:07promotion review process and forms
  • 00:09and documents. This is one
  • 00:10that I would say probably
  • 00:12gives people,
  • 00:14the most anxiety in terms
  • 00:15of coming up with,
  • 00:18people who are going to
  • 00:19serve as evaluators or referees
  • 00:21for their promotion review. So
  • 00:23I'm gonna go through a
  • 00:25lot of, kind of detail
  • 00:26on this. A lot of
  • 00:27this is on our OAPD
  • 00:29website.
  • 00:30So as you know, our
  • 00:31school, like most academic institutions,
  • 00:34requires
  • 00:35letters of evaluation as important
  • 00:38part of the, appointment and
  • 00:39promotion process.
  • 00:42Our school requires a specific
  • 00:44number and a specific types
  • 00:45of letters for promotions or
  • 00:47for new appointments to advanced
  • 00:49rank.
  • 00:51Here at at Yale and
  • 00:53at a lot of places,
  • 00:55when candidates are reviewed for
  • 00:56promotion,
  • 00:57they're not allowed to request
  • 01:00those letters from referees,
  • 01:03in the same way that
  • 01:05you might do what or
  • 01:06you might have done when
  • 01:07you were applying for a
  • 01:08job here as a,
  • 01:11associate research scientist or assistant
  • 01:13professor.
  • 01:15You're not allowed to kind
  • 01:16of have conversations
  • 01:17with these evaluators
  • 01:19or check-in with them
  • 01:20about, whether they're willing to
  • 01:22write a letter for you.
  • 01:23So it's a little bit
  • 01:24different than, sort of letters
  • 01:26for a job hiring process.
  • 01:30With some exceptions, which I'll
  • 01:31describe in a in a
  • 01:32few slides, all of your
  • 01:34evaluators,
  • 01:35should be at or above
  • 01:37the rank you are being
  • 01:38reviewed for,
  • 01:40and that's because they're judging
  • 01:41you as an
  • 01:43more senior expert in the
  • 01:45field typically,
  • 01:47and they're evaluating
  • 01:48your standing, your contributions,
  • 01:49and your reputation in the
  • 01:51field in comparison
  • 01:53to other faculty that they
  • 01:54may know who are on
  • 01:55a similar track or a
  • 01:56similar stage in their career.
  • 01:58And in order to make
  • 01:59that evaluation,
  • 02:00they need their first they
  • 02:02need to be,
  • 02:03kind of at least as
  • 02:04expert as all of you
  • 02:05are to evaluate that.
  • 02:07So if you're being reviewed,
  • 02:09for associate professor, it means
  • 02:11that all of your evaluators
  • 02:13must be associate professors or
  • 02:15full professors,
  • 02:17with a few exceptions as
  • 02:18I said, which I'll cover
  • 02:19in a few slides.
  • 02:21I can't overstate how important
  • 02:23these letters of evaluation
  • 02:25are,
  • 02:25and choosing the right people
  • 02:27and
  • 02:28consulting with colleagues in your
  • 02:30department about
  • 02:32possible people who might serve
  • 02:34as expert evaluators
  • 02:35of your contributions,
  • 02:37to the field.
  • 02:40So I'll I'll start by
  • 02:42focusing on some important distinction
  • 02:44between two different types of
  • 02:46letters,
  • 02:47which are important to academic
  • 02:49reviews, in most universities.
  • 02:52This is part of the
  • 02:53process I'd say that faculty
  • 02:56typically have the most questions
  • 02:58about.
  • 02:59We made some modifications
  • 03:01to these definitions a few
  • 03:02years ago to loosen some
  • 03:04of the rigidity and the
  • 03:06definitions that we had been
  • 03:07historically using.
  • 03:09And also to be,
  • 03:10more consistent with how our,
  • 03:12peer institutions have evolved in
  • 03:15in thinking about these letters.
  • 03:17But in general,
  • 03:19non arms length,
  • 03:20evaluators
  • 03:21have usually worked directly with
  • 03:24you, currently or recently
  • 03:26in some capacity or collaborated
  • 03:28with you, and they're generally
  • 03:30gonna be positively biased in
  • 03:32favor of your being promoted,
  • 03:34which is fine.
  • 03:36Arms like the valuators
  • 03:38really should have no current
  • 03:39or direct relationship with you
  • 03:41and
  • 03:42they should be considering themselves
  • 03:44to be impartial or unbiased
  • 03:46judges of your case
  • 03:48for promotion.
  • 03:49Having said that, it's always
  • 03:51preferable I think
  • 03:53for people who might be
  • 03:54serving as arms length referees
  • 03:56to know who you are.
  • 03:57That isn't always the case
  • 03:59and it doesn't have to
  • 04:00be, but
  • 04:01in our experience that people
  • 04:02have at least like met
  • 04:03you at professional meetings or
  • 04:05maybe
  • 04:07been on a committee with
  • 04:07you, their likelihood of of
  • 04:09writing a letter kind of
  • 04:10increases and if they they
  • 04:11have no idea who you
  • 04:13are,
  • 04:14but that's fine to include
  • 04:15some people who you've never
  • 04:17met as well.
  • 04:19There are a number of
  • 04:20ways,
  • 04:21people may know you that
  • 04:22do not
  • 04:23preclude there being,
  • 04:25considered arms length referees and
  • 04:27I will spend a little
  • 04:29bit more time on that
  • 04:30in a few slides.
  • 04:32So on our website, we
  • 04:33have a bunch of different,
  • 04:36files or documents
  • 04:38related to this.
  • 04:40And before I summarize some
  • 04:41of the the definitions of
  • 04:42evaluators, I just wanted to
  • 04:44make people aware of these.
  • 04:46You can go on our
  • 04:47website and read these
  • 04:49through. I'm I'm gonna summarize
  • 04:50some of this today,
  • 04:52but I'd say if you're
  • 04:53going to be reviewed for
  • 04:54promotion
  • 04:55for,
  • 04:56like for what would be
  • 04:57January first two thousand seventeen,
  • 05:00I really strongly advise you
  • 05:02to review all of the
  • 05:03the materials on the website
  • 05:05as you start thinking about
  • 05:06who's going to be writing
  • 05:07letters.
  • 05:09The proceed the procedure document
  • 05:10we have is is longer.
  • 05:12It's a bit more focused
  • 05:13on guiding
  • 05:14faculty affairs staff with this
  • 05:16process but,
  • 05:17might be worth, faculty reviewing
  • 05:19as well.
  • 05:20And then there's a shorter
  • 05:22guidance document that helps you
  • 05:24decide whether someone might be
  • 05:26non arms length or arms
  • 05:27length.
  • 05:28And then there are three
  • 05:29existing forms,
  • 05:31that have also been revised
  • 05:32which I'll show you parts
  • 05:33of and some coming slides.
  • 05:36In addition a few years
  • 05:37ago,
  • 05:39we revised
  • 05:40these, email letter solicitations
  • 05:43that we send out to
  • 05:44evaluators,
  • 05:45that invite people to evaluate
  • 05:47you on the track and
  • 05:48the rank that you're being,
  • 05:50considered for and I'll I'll
  • 05:51show examples of that in
  • 05:53a minute.
  • 05:55So as I mentioned, there's
  • 05:56typically an expectation that a
  • 05:58referee,
  • 05:59is at or above the
  • 06:00rank you are being proposed
  • 06:02for for promotion.
  • 06:04There are some exceptions to
  • 06:06this. For example,
  • 06:08leaders at the National Institutes
  • 06:10of Health or
  • 06:11executive leaders of major organizations
  • 06:14in your field or senior
  • 06:16scientists at institutes or industry,
  • 06:18who do not have a
  • 06:20professor appointment
  • 06:21are allowed and the guidelines
  • 06:23that are on the website,
  • 06:25spell this out and indicate
  • 06:27that there really shouldn't be
  • 06:28more than two
  • 06:30of these people for most
  • 06:31tracks.
  • 06:39There's a couple of documents
  • 06:41that are used in the
  • 06:42review process
  • 06:44that,
  • 06:45these two questions appear on.
  • 06:48And they are really the
  • 06:49overarching
  • 06:50principles of what Yale and
  • 06:52most other institutions
  • 06:53mean by,
  • 06:54an impartial
  • 06:56or arms length referee versus
  • 06:59a non arms length or
  • 07:00a favorably
  • 07:02biased
  • 07:03referee, if you will. The
  • 07:05first is, does the referee
  • 07:07have a past or present
  • 07:09professional or personal relationship with
  • 07:11you,
  • 07:12that could impact their actual
  • 07:14or their perceived ability to
  • 07:15provide an impartial review?
  • 07:17And then could that referee
  • 07:19or perhaps the program where
  • 07:21they are,
  • 07:22be perceived as benefited benefiting
  • 07:25from a successful or unsuccessful
  • 07:27outcome of your review?
  • 07:29So if either of these
  • 07:30questions as you're going through
  • 07:31your list you you come
  • 07:33up with a yes answer,
  • 07:35then usually
  • 07:36that referee,
  • 07:38should be thought of as
  • 07:39being a non arm's length
  • 07:40referee.
  • 07:41If both are no,
  • 07:43then they're probably an arm's
  • 07:45length referee, and if you
  • 07:47have any uncertainty about it
  • 07:48one way or the other,
  • 07:49it's always worth consulting with,
  • 07:52faculty colleagues or with our
  • 07:54office about,
  • 07:56which they may be.
  • 07:59So this is a list
  • 08:00of the typical characteristics
  • 08:02of arms length referees. This
  • 08:04this,
  • 08:05document is on the website.
  • 08:09And generally,
  • 08:11arms length evaluators have no
  • 08:13current direct relationship with you,
  • 08:16and would consider themselves as
  • 08:17I said to be impartial
  • 08:18or unbiased judges of your
  • 08:20case for promotion.
  • 08:22As I've mentioned before, it's
  • 08:24it's it's usually best if
  • 08:26those arms length referees kinda
  • 08:28know who you are or
  • 08:29maybe have met you,
  • 08:30because it increases their chances
  • 08:32of writing letter but they
  • 08:33don't have to know you.
  • 08:35And then so this is
  • 08:36really a list of,
  • 08:37from the guidance document on
  • 08:39the website of,
  • 08:41what we consider character typical,
  • 08:43characteristics
  • 08:44of what could be considered
  • 08:45an arm's length referee. So
  • 08:47obviously, they if they've never
  • 08:49known you
  • 08:50or met or trained or
  • 08:52worked with you,
  • 08:53they'd be arm's length. But
  • 08:55there are also many ways
  • 08:56in which an arms length
  • 08:57referee,
  • 08:59may may know you or
  • 09:00have,
  • 09:01have worked with you in
  • 09:02some way,
  • 09:04but they'd still be considered
  • 09:06impartial. So
  • 09:08people who've read your work,
  • 09:10people you've interacted with at
  • 09:12meetings,
  • 09:13people that you've served together
  • 09:14on committees, or if you've
  • 09:16done peer reviews for an
  • 09:18editor of a journal,
  • 09:21or done other kinds of
  • 09:22peer reviewing,
  • 09:23or participated,
  • 09:25you know, as
  • 09:26a presenter within a symposium,
  • 09:28typically those are gonna be
  • 09:30allowable as arm's length referees.
  • 09:33If you've co presented with
  • 09:35them at meetings or have
  • 09:37published with them, then they're
  • 09:38not, but just being,
  • 09:40kind of working with people
  • 09:41in the same space doesn't
  • 09:43make someone,
  • 09:44non arms length of ref
  • 09:45referees.
  • 09:47But for the most part,
  • 09:47this is gonna be a
  • 09:48group that's evaluating you,
  • 09:51on your contributions
  • 09:53based on the documents that
  • 09:55get sent to them without
  • 09:56also having knowledge of of
  • 09:58of of very much knowledge
  • 10:00of of who you are.
  • 10:02So that's why we really
  • 10:03emphasize in some of our
  • 10:04other talks,
  • 10:05you know, high quality,
  • 10:07well organized
  • 10:09CV and CV part two,
  • 10:12and other kinds of documents.
  • 10:15Non arms length evaluators have
  • 10:16worked directly with you, currently
  • 10:19or in the recent past
  • 10:20in some capacity.
  • 10:22And as I said, they're
  • 10:22generally gonna be positively biased
  • 10:24in favor of, you're being
  • 10:26promoted. They're people that
  • 10:28have worked closely with you.
  • 10:29Their opinions about you obviously
  • 10:31are valuable, but they're typically,
  • 10:33you know, gonna write a
  • 10:34fairly positive letter.
  • 10:36So these are people like,
  • 10:38you know, people that you've
  • 10:38co authored manuscripts
  • 10:40with or if you've co
  • 10:42presented
  • 10:43a paper,
  • 10:44or or or co kind
  • 10:46of created a panel discussion,
  • 10:49if you've co edited a
  • 10:50book with them,
  • 10:52if you wrote a book
  • 10:53chapter for somebody else, that's
  • 10:56that typically is gonna be
  • 10:58fine as an arm's length
  • 10:59referee, but if you're the
  • 11:00co editor of a book
  • 11:01or your co author of
  • 11:02a chapter obviously
  • 11:04that's gonna be non arm's
  • 11:05length.
  • 11:06Co instructors of courses,
  • 11:10research collaborators on grants,
  • 11:13supervisors,
  • 11:14mentors, mentees, faculty at the
  • 11:16same institution. All of these
  • 11:18are typically,
  • 11:20considered,
  • 11:21non arms length
  • 11:24referees with some exceptions, which
  • 11:26I'll kind of go through
  • 11:27now.
  • 11:29After I had conducted this
  • 11:31peer benchmark
  • 11:33peer benchmarking project a few
  • 11:35years ago,
  • 11:37just to see how other
  • 11:38peer institutions were,
  • 11:41considering these these letters, you
  • 11:43know, and how that's evolved
  • 11:44over time. We made some
  • 11:45modifications
  • 11:46to how we consider arms
  • 11:48length and non arms length
  • 11:50referees,
  • 11:51where we thought we were
  • 11:52being maybe a bit too,
  • 11:54restrictive.
  • 11:55So as again, assuming that
  • 11:57those two overarching questions I
  • 11:59mentioned before
  • 12:00are answered no, meaning the
  • 12:02person considers themselves in partial
  • 12:04or wouldn't or their institution
  • 12:06wouldn't benefit from your promotion.
  • 12:09Assuming those answers are no,
  • 12:11if the only relationships that
  • 12:13you've had with referees
  • 12:15are as co contributors
  • 12:17to
  • 12:17kind of large either multi
  • 12:19authored projects or multi contributor
  • 12:23guidance documents or things like
  • 12:25that,
  • 12:26and you're one of more
  • 12:28than twenty five contributors to
  • 12:30that,
  • 12:31that they they can be
  • 12:32considered an arms length referee.
  • 12:34We do see this as
  • 12:35people particularly are are engaged
  • 12:37in large collaborative research projects
  • 12:40or large collaborative
  • 12:41consensus guideline
  • 12:43development. If that's your only
  • 12:45relationship
  • 12:46with them, they can can
  • 12:48be considered at arms length,
  • 12:50even though your name is
  • 12:51sort of appearing in the
  • 12:52same author list.
  • 12:54So we we we call
  • 12:55that limited in scope,
  • 12:57and usually it means that
  • 12:59they can do an impartial
  • 13:00review.
  • 13:01The other allowance we make,
  • 13:03are for certain relationships
  • 13:05which otherwise would be considered
  • 13:07non arms length but because
  • 13:09there's they they are distant
  • 13:11in time,
  • 13:13that we will consider them,
  • 13:15arms length referees for a
  • 13:16certain number of of categories.
  • 13:19So in general, if ten
  • 13:20or more years have elapsed,
  • 13:23since you have served in
  • 13:25one of these this is
  • 13:26that same non arms length
  • 13:27referee list as before but
  • 13:29I bolded in italics
  • 13:31the categories where
  • 13:33if you've had this relationship
  • 13:35with them, but it's greater
  • 13:36than ten years ago,
  • 13:38they can be considered,
  • 13:40arms length.
  • 13:42The ones that are unbolded
  • 13:44are ones that, you know,
  • 13:45once someone has served in
  • 13:47that role for you or
  • 13:48has had that relationship with
  • 13:49you, they they are always
  • 13:51gonna be considered non arm's
  • 13:52length.
  • 13:53A thesis or,
  • 13:55advisor from your graduate school
  • 13:57or from your medical school
  • 13:59has a vested interest in
  • 14:01your success, and so they
  • 14:02are always gonna be, considered
  • 14:05non arms length. You can
  • 14:06use them, but they're they're
  • 14:07not gonna be thought of
  • 14:08as being,
  • 14:09impartial.
  • 14:16So this is a form,
  • 14:17that we send out,
  • 14:20when we solicit letters of
  • 14:21evaluation.
  • 14:23And if you're going up
  • 14:24for associate professor,
  • 14:26your department will do that
  • 14:27letter solicitation.
  • 14:29If you're going up for
  • 14:30professor,
  • 14:32the school does it. Our,
  • 14:34see you know Karen and
  • 14:35Ingrid are both on the
  • 14:36call today.
  • 14:38They will be the ones
  • 14:39who are doing that on
  • 14:40behalf of the Dean.
  • 14:42But when we send those
  • 14:44requests out, there's a form
  • 14:46that, we ask all evaluators
  • 14:48to complete in addition to
  • 14:50providing the letter. This is
  • 14:52just a portion of the
  • 14:53form.
  • 14:54But as you can see
  • 14:55it leads off with those
  • 14:57two
  • 14:58foundational questions which help,
  • 15:00think through whether someone is
  • 15:02impartial or or or or
  • 15:04could be perceived as benefiting
  • 15:05from your advancement.
  • 15:07And then it essentially lists
  • 15:09most of those items that
  • 15:11I had on those two
  • 15:12prior forms
  • 15:13and asks,
  • 15:15the referee to check off
  • 15:17relationships that may have had
  • 15:19with you.
  • 15:20And you can see in
  • 15:21the, parentheses for these two
  • 15:22sample items how we try
  • 15:24to get at this issue
  • 15:26of,
  • 15:27someone who maybe has had
  • 15:28a limited in scope relationship
  • 15:30with you,
  • 15:32or has had a,
  • 15:34essentially a non arm's length
  • 15:35relationship with you, but
  • 15:37that goes back greater than
  • 15:38ten years. So these are
  • 15:40just a couple of sample
  • 15:41items. So we really,
  • 15:43not all referees will send
  • 15:45this back to us, unfortunately.
  • 15:47And so sometimes we have
  • 15:48to kinda read through their
  • 15:49letter to make sure that
  • 15:50they don't say something that
  • 15:52would,
  • 15:53make us question whether they
  • 15:54are arm's length or not.
  • 15:56So this form kinda goes
  • 15:58out. And, obviously, a a
  • 15:59nonarm's length person is gonna
  • 16:01be checking off, you know,
  • 16:02a number of these boxes.
  • 16:06One of the other, I
  • 16:07think important
  • 16:09changes that we made,
  • 16:11to the guidelines for the
  • 16:13led letters, a few years
  • 16:15ago.
  • 16:15For years, for for as
  • 16:17long as Julie Buchanan has
  • 16:19been
  • 16:20been running the office we've
  • 16:22had guide we had guidelines
  • 16:25that would allow you to
  • 16:26have some of your non
  • 16:27arms length letter writers be
  • 16:29from other departments than your
  • 16:30own but you were not
  • 16:32allowed to have,
  • 16:34referees from your own department.
  • 16:36And kind of based on
  • 16:37that, peer benchmarking,
  • 16:40sort of project that I
  • 16:41did. We found that, a
  • 16:43lot of our peer institutions
  • 16:45were were
  • 16:48allowing a certain number from
  • 16:50people who worked directly with
  • 16:52you and and particularly
  • 16:54for
  • 16:55faculty who have significant clinical,
  • 16:58or educational
  • 16:59responsibilities.
  • 17:01And that's because sometimes though
  • 17:03your external
  • 17:04letter writers
  • 17:05at other institutions
  • 17:07and they'll say it right
  • 17:08in their letter, I I
  • 17:09don't have,
  • 17:11I I I I'm not
  • 17:12able to evaluate their clinical
  • 17:14skills or
  • 17:15other than seeing them present
  • 17:17at a conference once, I
  • 17:18really can't evaluate their teaching.
  • 17:21So so opening this up
  • 17:23a little bit to evaluations
  • 17:25from faculty who know you
  • 17:26really well from your department
  • 17:29was really important for,
  • 17:31for some of the tracks.
  • 17:32The restriction
  • 17:33against,
  • 17:36letters from within your department
  • 17:38still is the case if
  • 17:40you're going up on the
  • 17:40clinician scientist investigator
  • 17:42or traditional track.
  • 17:45And and also if you're
  • 17:46going up on the research
  • 17:47ranks or the adjunct ranks,
  • 17:49those you can have them
  • 17:50from people outside your department
  • 17:52but not from within the
  • 17:54department.
  • 17:55However, for faculty again who
  • 17:57have significant clinical or educational
  • 17:59responsibilities and and we think
  • 18:01of those as being either
  • 18:02on the academic clinician track
  • 18:04or the clinician educator scholar
  • 18:06track.
  • 18:07We encourage people to get,
  • 18:09to have
  • 18:10a maximum of two of
  • 18:12these letters of the non
  • 18:14arms length letters,
  • 18:16being from colleagues who are
  • 18:17gonna comment on your,
  • 18:19clinical and or educational
  • 18:21skills.
  • 18:22So for those two tracks,
  • 18:24ladder tracks and for our
  • 18:27voluntary clinical tracks,
  • 18:29you can have a couple
  • 18:30of these letters from,
  • 18:33from from folks in your
  • 18:34department.
  • 18:36They have to they have
  • 18:37to meet those other criteria
  • 18:38of being at a higher
  • 18:39rank though. That's an important
  • 18:41piece of this. The other
  • 18:42piece of this, which is
  • 18:43sometimes we encourage people to
  • 18:44think carefully about
  • 18:46these folks is if they
  • 18:48write a letter of evaluation
  • 18:50for you, they shouldn't be
  • 18:52the one who's advising you
  • 18:54on who,
  • 18:56to select as referees on
  • 18:58this form that I'll go
  • 18:59over in a minute.
  • 19:00And they should really not
  • 19:03be participating
  • 19:04in the department
  • 19:05committee
  • 19:07discussion and vote about your
  • 19:08case.
  • 19:10Their,
  • 19:11their letter really is the
  • 19:13most important evaluation
  • 19:15and it's it's given a
  • 19:16lot of weight.
  • 19:17But for them to also
  • 19:19be contributing to the committee
  • 19:20discussion,
  • 19:23it this sort of, kind
  • 19:24of adds to it. So
  • 19:26they can be in the
  • 19:26meeting,
  • 19:28and, you know, they can
  • 19:29kinda be there for that,
  • 19:30but they're they're really not
  • 19:31supposed to be contributing or
  • 19:33or voting on that.
  • 19:36So I'm just gonna walk
  • 19:38through a couple of the
  • 19:39forms and this is one
  • 19:41that you will,
  • 19:42is is on our website
  • 19:43and you would kind of
  • 19:45review carefully,
  • 19:46depending on which track and
  • 19:49rank you are being,
  • 19:51reviewed for.
  • 19:52Again, we did make a
  • 19:53couple of relatively minor changes
  • 19:56to
  • 19:57the number and types of
  • 19:58evaluation
  • 19:59required for some of the
  • 20:00tracks.
  • 20:01But I'm just gonna I'll
  • 20:02start out with these three
  • 20:04tracks which we sometimes call
  • 20:05the research intensive tracks.
  • 20:08We did not make any
  • 20:10changes
  • 20:10from how we've had this
  • 20:12for a number of years,
  • 20:13to the number of referees
  • 20:15that are solicited.
  • 20:17How many the minimum number
  • 20:19of arms length versus non
  • 20:20arms length that we need
  • 20:22depending on if you're going
  • 20:23up for associate professor
  • 20:25or for full professor. So
  • 20:27as you can see for
  • 20:28for all three of these
  • 20:29tracks for full professor,
  • 20:32we still need,
  • 20:33six referees,
  • 20:35that we would solicit
  • 20:37that would be recommended by
  • 20:38your department usually in consultation
  • 20:41with you.
  • 20:43Most departments do it that
  • 20:44way. You know, the the
  • 20:45chair or some other leader
  • 20:46or your mentor,
  • 20:48might have some ideas about
  • 20:50who would be good people
  • 20:51to write letters about you,
  • 20:52but you can have input
  • 20:54into that. And if they
  • 20:55suggested someone that you know
  • 20:58would just not write a
  • 20:59fair or positive letter, you
  • 21:01can tell them I really
  • 21:02would rather you not include
  • 21:03that person. So you have
  • 21:05input into this.
  • 21:06But there are there are
  • 21:07supposed to be a number
  • 21:09of referees that your department,
  • 21:11recommends and all of those
  • 21:12department,
  • 21:14recommended
  • 21:14referees are should be arms
  • 21:16length.
  • 21:18So we solicit six of
  • 21:19those and then we also
  • 21:21solicit six that you would
  • 21:23be primarily responsible for identifying.
  • 21:27And we ask, for two
  • 21:28arms length and and four
  • 21:30arms length letters. And then
  • 21:31to complete, the review for
  • 21:33professor, we need a minimum
  • 21:35of eight back,
  • 21:37with, six of those being,
  • 21:40arms length.
  • 21:41We have, haven't and and
  • 21:43don't require
  • 21:45quite as many letters for
  • 21:46associate professor,
  • 21:48term reviews.
  • 21:49So it's somewhat,
  • 21:51less onerous for for those
  • 21:52reviews. But again, we also
  • 21:54for these research intensive tracks,
  • 21:56we do need,
  • 21:59a good balance of arms
  • 22:00length and non arms length
  • 22:01referees.
  • 22:05And then for what we
  • 22:06sometimes call the clinically intensive
  • 22:08tracks, clinician, educator, scholar, and
  • 22:10academic clinician,
  • 22:12we for the professor reviews,
  • 22:15we also require,
  • 22:17that the department supply us
  • 22:19with six arms length referees
  • 22:21and then five arms length
  • 22:22referees for associate professors.
  • 22:25Just like the three other
  • 22:26tracks.
  • 22:27The modification that we made
  • 22:28a few years ago were
  • 22:30on the,
  • 22:31letters that you as the
  • 22:32candidate would be recommending in
  • 22:34terms of how many arms
  • 22:35length versus non arms length.
  • 22:38We didn't change that for
  • 22:40the clinician educator scholar professor.
  • 22:42So just like for the
  • 22:44research intensive tracks, we require
  • 22:47a similar amount of
  • 22:49arms length and non arms
  • 22:50length
  • 22:52referees that are suggested and
  • 22:54received.
  • 22:55For the associate professor, we've
  • 22:57kind of reduced the number
  • 22:58of arms length
  • 23:00and increase the number of
  • 23:01non arms length that from
  • 23:03before
  • 23:04for the associate professor reviews
  • 23:06and then reduce them somewhat
  • 23:08further for
  • 23:10the arms length referee requirements
  • 23:12for the academic clinician
  • 23:14reviews. Just, you know, based
  • 23:15on our experience,
  • 23:17those
  • 23:19letters sometimes can be quite
  • 23:21hard to get
  • 23:22for academic clinicians, particularly if
  • 23:24they're academic clinicians who,
  • 23:26you know, because there's no
  • 23:27scholarship,
  • 23:28requirement.
  • 23:29Their their work has not
  • 23:30gotten out into the field
  • 23:32in the same way that
  • 23:33it has for other faculty.
  • 23:34So the arms length referees
  • 23:36for
  • 23:37academic clinician reviews,
  • 23:39can be a little bit
  • 23:40more challenged. So we did
  • 23:41some modification
  • 23:42on those, but we we
  • 23:44still do, and you can
  • 23:45see for associate professor, we
  • 23:47need six letters and two
  • 23:49of them have to be,
  • 23:51arm's length.
  • 23:56And then just, just because
  • 23:57I know we we typically
  • 23:59get a fair number of
  • 24:00folks on these seminars who
  • 24:02are on the research ranks,
  • 24:04for research
  • 24:06adjunct and voluntary ranks or
  • 24:08what we sometimes call the
  • 24:09non ladder ranks,
  • 24:10we essentially just tried to
  • 24:12make the number consistent
  • 24:14across all three of those
  • 24:15ranks.
  • 24:17So for the senior ranks,
  • 24:19whether that's
  • 24:20senior research scientist professor,
  • 24:22adjunct, or clinical professor,
  • 24:24we ask that the departments,
  • 24:27departments recommend four arms length
  • 24:29and that the candidate,
  • 24:31can recommend three arms length
  • 24:33or non arms length.
  • 24:35And then for those senior
  • 24:36ranks we require four letters
  • 24:38come back,
  • 24:40one of which has to
  • 24:41be arms length.
  • 24:43And then for the mid
  • 24:44ranks,
  • 24:45research scientist, associate professor adjunct,
  • 24:48and associate clinical professor.
  • 24:50We do solicit arm's length
  • 24:52referees, but we can move
  • 24:54forward with a review as
  • 24:55long as we have three
  • 24:56letters come back that are
  • 24:58either arm's length or non
  • 24:59arm's length.
  • 25:02And again, for the voluntary
  • 25:03clinical
  • 25:05ranks,
  • 25:06the,
  • 25:07they can a couple of
  • 25:08them can be from your
  • 25:09own from your own department.
  • 25:13So this is a piece
  • 25:14of
  • 25:15one of the important forms
  • 25:17that we have people fill
  • 25:19out. I'd say this is
  • 25:20probably a form that
  • 25:22creates,
  • 25:23you know, some anxiety for
  • 25:24faculty to create.
  • 25:26It really is one that
  • 25:27you should you know find
  • 25:29a couple of colleagues in
  • 25:30your,
  • 25:31more senior colleagues in your
  • 25:33department to kind of help
  • 25:34you think through who would
  • 25:35be
  • 25:37good people for
  • 25:38to be listed as your
  • 25:40referees.
  • 25:41And on this form you
  • 25:43list the names, ranks,
  • 25:45institutions,
  • 25:47email addresses,
  • 25:50and other kinds of contact
  • 25:51information
  • 25:52for all of your referees.
  • 25:55In the fifth column of
  • 25:56the table,
  • 25:57we would ask you
  • 25:59to describe any relationship you
  • 26:02have with the potential referee.
  • 26:03So if it's arms length,
  • 26:05I don't think even think
  • 26:06you have to complete that.
  • 26:08But if it if it
  • 26:09is someone that is arm's
  • 26:11length
  • 26:12because,
  • 26:15there's been that,
  • 26:16they they meet that criteria
  • 26:18because it's been greater than
  • 26:19ten years, Sometimes putting that
  • 26:21explanation in there is a
  • 26:23is is helpful. So you
  • 26:24might say,
  • 26:26this was a secondary mentor
  • 26:28of mine,
  • 26:30from,
  • 26:31from medical school.
  • 26:33Or this person taught a
  • 26:35course that I was in
  • 26:36when I was in graduate
  • 26:37school and it was fifteen
  • 26:39years ago. So you would
  • 26:40include that within there.
  • 26:44The other thing which isn't
  • 26:45on this form is we
  • 26:47ask people,
  • 26:49I would say particularly on
  • 26:51the clinically intensive tracks,
  • 26:53to
  • 26:54include an optional list of
  • 26:56referees that we can solicit
  • 26:58if,
  • 26:59we don't get enough come
  • 27:01back in our initial solicitation.
  • 27:04That sometimes happens and
  • 27:06so we really ask people
  • 27:08upfront
  • 27:08in addition to the the
  • 27:10minimum required that you you
  • 27:12have for this department section
  • 27:14and the candidate section
  • 27:16on that,
  • 27:17last page of an optional
  • 27:19list
  • 27:20is include some additional,
  • 27:22arms length and non arms
  • 27:24length referees, particularly the arms
  • 27:25length ones. If you can
  • 27:27come up with some additional
  • 27:28names,
  • 27:29because again for the
  • 27:31I'd say particularly for the
  • 27:32academic clinician and clinician educator
  • 27:34scholar tracks, sometimes those can
  • 27:36be harder
  • 27:37to get people to respond
  • 27:38to. So if we have
  • 27:39some extras,
  • 27:41then our office or your
  • 27:43department can go out for
  • 27:44those right away. Some some
  • 27:46departments
  • 27:47just go out for everything
  • 27:48that's on on the list
  • 27:50right away,
  • 27:52in hopes that, you know,
  • 27:53we'll get enough back to
  • 27:54be able to move forward
  • 27:55for that. We went to
  • 27:57that a couple years ago
  • 27:58because we were finding that
  • 28:01if we didn't have it,
  • 28:02our going back to the
  • 28:04department and saying could you
  • 28:05talk to the faculty member
  • 28:07to see if they've got
  • 28:08some more names and and
  • 28:09doing that back and forth
  • 28:10just added to the anxiety
  • 28:11level because
  • 28:13because, you know, the the
  • 28:14faculty member knew, you know,
  • 28:16know knew that
  • 28:18the list that they had
  • 28:19provided had not really,
  • 28:21generated all that they needed.
  • 28:22So
  • 28:23the optional names allows us
  • 28:25to just kind of do
  • 28:26that and move forward with
  • 28:27that without,
  • 28:29adding to the anxiety level.
  • 28:33And then, just last slide
  • 28:35to,
  • 28:36before we kinda open it
  • 28:37up for questions.
  • 28:39When we send out the
  • 28:41solicitation
  • 28:42letter with that
  • 28:44evaluator
  • 28:45relationship form that had all
  • 28:47has has all the check
  • 28:48boxes.
  • 28:49We in that solicitation
  • 28:51letter, it is specific
  • 28:54to the rank and the
  • 28:55track. So there's there's different
  • 28:57templates. I think we have
  • 28:58all Julie, I think we
  • 28:59have all of these on
  • 28:59the website. So people are
  • 29:01interested in it. You may
  • 29:02have you may have to,
  • 29:04sign in with your NetID.
  • 29:06I can't remember if it's
  • 29:07behind,
  • 29:08that sign in. But you
  • 29:10can see what goes out
  • 29:11and I think some and
  • 29:12again, I would encourage people
  • 29:13to look at those letters,
  • 29:16these template letters because,
  • 29:18this is what is going
  • 29:19to be asked of your
  • 29:21evaluators.
  • 29:22So I just put up
  • 29:23this one which is for
  • 29:24professor on the clinician educator
  • 29:26scholar track.
  • 29:28So you can see that
  • 29:29we're really asking for
  • 29:31for things that are really
  • 29:33focused on all three mission
  • 29:36areas.
  • 29:37Since the clinician educator scholar
  • 29:39track people have to excel
  • 29:41in all three of those
  • 29:42areas.
  • 29:43And I also put this
  • 29:44one up there just because,
  • 29:47when one's going up for
  • 29:49professor on this track
  • 29:51you can see that the
  • 29:52scholarship criteria
  • 29:55is listed first
  • 29:57and we just want people
  • 29:58to be aware of that
  • 29:59when people are going up
  • 30:00for professor on this particular
  • 30:02track
  • 30:04scholarship and being having a
  • 30:06national reputation for your scholarship
  • 30:09is really an important consideration.
  • 30:11And in ways that's not
  • 30:13it's a little bit different
  • 30:14when people are going up
  • 30:15for associate professor on the
  • 30:17c e on that clinician
  • 30:18educator scholar
  • 30:19track. There as long as
  • 30:21you're sort of you've got
  • 30:22some trajectory,
  • 30:24and I think scholarship in
  • 30:25that template is listed third
  • 30:28in that. So people,
  • 30:30referees are asked to talk
  • 30:32about your clinical
  • 30:33excellence, your educational
  • 30:34excellence and and then your
  • 30:35scholarly,
  • 30:38you know, excellence.
  • 30:39For professor, it gets flipped
  • 30:41a bit. So they still
  • 30:42need to be commenting on
  • 30:44your clinical and educational excellence.
  • 30:47But scholarship really gets a
  • 30:49lot of weight in these
  • 30:50professor CES track reviews.
  • 30:53They'll they'll all they're also
  • 30:55asked to comment on,
  • 30:58any leadership or administrative roles
  • 31:00that you have
  • 31:01and also comment on,
  • 31:03your professionalism
  • 31:05and
  • 31:06ethics and any
  • 31:09professional conduct issues that hardly
  • 31:11ever comes up
  • 31:13in a letter of evaluation.
  • 31:15Usually
  • 31:16the people who agree to
  • 31:17write a letter for you
  • 31:18are writing
  • 31:21rather glowingly about you or
  • 31:23at least positively if not
  • 31:25glowingly.
  • 31:27It's pretty rare
  • 31:29for us to see a
  • 31:30letter that
  • 31:32is
  • 31:34just quite negative about someone.
  • 31:36I'd say we
  • 31:38see
  • 31:39maybe two of those a
  • 31:41year. It's really unusual.
  • 31:44Most
  • 31:45academics,
  • 31:46I think have the decency.
  • 31:47If they don't think highly
  • 31:49of you, they're just gonna
  • 31:51decline writing the letter.
  • 31:53They'll usually say I'm too
  • 31:55busy to do this or
  • 31:56whatever. But it's it's,
  • 31:59it's it's helpful that they
  • 32:00do that because
  • 32:02a really damning letter is
  • 32:04is is a problem. We
  • 32:05do get letters that come
  • 32:07back,
  • 32:08where,
  • 32:10you know, it's not like
  • 32:11flat out negative, but there's
  • 32:13a bit of
  • 32:14a sort of damning with
  • 32:15faint praise,
  • 32:17as and sometimes we get
  • 32:18those that that come back
  • 32:20where the evaluator just doesn't
  • 32:22seem to have, you know,
  • 32:23the ability to speak glowingly.
  • 32:26Most of the letters that
  • 32:27come back are gonna be
  • 32:28really positive and and help
  • 32:30people with their promotions.