OAPD - Letters Of Evaluation for Appointment and Promotion
March 12, 2026Information
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- 00:00This is our latest in
- 00:02series of of, presentations
- 00:04on different aspects
- 00:05of the,
- 00:07promotion review process and forms
- 00:09and documents. This is one
- 00:10that I would say probably
- 00:12gives people,
- 00:14the most anxiety in terms
- 00:15of coming up with,
- 00:18people who are going to
- 00:19serve as evaluators or referees
- 00:21for their promotion review. So
- 00:23I'm gonna go through a
- 00:25lot of, kind of detail
- 00:26on this. A lot of
- 00:27this is on our OAPD
- 00:29website.
- 00:30So as you know, our
- 00:31school, like most academic institutions,
- 00:34requires
- 00:35letters of evaluation as important
- 00:38part of the, appointment and
- 00:39promotion process.
- 00:42Our school requires a specific
- 00:44number and a specific types
- 00:45of letters for promotions or
- 00:47for new appointments to advanced
- 00:49rank.
- 00:51Here at at Yale and
- 00:53at a lot of places,
- 00:55when candidates are reviewed for
- 00:56promotion,
- 00:57they're not allowed to request
- 01:00those letters from referees,
- 01:03in the same way that
- 01:05you might do what or
- 01:06you might have done when
- 01:07you were applying for a
- 01:08job here as a,
- 01:11associate research scientist or assistant
- 01:13professor.
- 01:15You're not allowed to kind
- 01:16of have conversations
- 01:17with these evaluators
- 01:19or check-in with them
- 01:20about, whether they're willing to
- 01:22write a letter for you.
- 01:23So it's a little bit
- 01:24different than, sort of letters
- 01:26for a job hiring process.
- 01:30With some exceptions, which I'll
- 01:31describe in a in a
- 01:32few slides, all of your
- 01:34evaluators,
- 01:35should be at or above
- 01:37the rank you are being
- 01:38reviewed for,
- 01:40and that's because they're judging
- 01:41you as an
- 01:43more senior expert in the
- 01:45field typically,
- 01:47and they're evaluating
- 01:48your standing, your contributions,
- 01:49and your reputation in the
- 01:51field in comparison
- 01:53to other faculty that they
- 01:54may know who are on
- 01:55a similar track or a
- 01:56similar stage in their career.
- 01:58And in order to make
- 01:59that evaluation,
- 02:00they need their first they
- 02:02need to be,
- 02:03kind of at least as
- 02:04expert as all of you
- 02:05are to evaluate that.
- 02:07So if you're being reviewed,
- 02:09for associate professor, it means
- 02:11that all of your evaluators
- 02:13must be associate professors or
- 02:15full professors,
- 02:17with a few exceptions as
- 02:18I said, which I'll cover
- 02:19in a few slides.
- 02:21I can't overstate how important
- 02:23these letters of evaluation
- 02:25are,
- 02:25and choosing the right people
- 02:27and
- 02:28consulting with colleagues in your
- 02:30department about
- 02:32possible people who might serve
- 02:34as expert evaluators
- 02:35of your contributions,
- 02:37to the field.
- 02:40So I'll I'll start by
- 02:42focusing on some important distinction
- 02:44between two different types of
- 02:46letters,
- 02:47which are important to academic
- 02:49reviews, in most universities.
- 02:52This is part of the
- 02:53process I'd say that faculty
- 02:56typically have the most questions
- 02:58about.
- 02:59We made some modifications
- 03:01to these definitions a few
- 03:02years ago to loosen some
- 03:04of the rigidity and the
- 03:06definitions that we had been
- 03:07historically using.
- 03:09And also to be,
- 03:10more consistent with how our,
- 03:12peer institutions have evolved in
- 03:15in thinking about these letters.
- 03:17But in general,
- 03:19non arms length,
- 03:20evaluators
- 03:21have usually worked directly with
- 03:24you, currently or recently
- 03:26in some capacity or collaborated
- 03:28with you, and they're generally
- 03:30gonna be positively biased in
- 03:32favor of your being promoted,
- 03:34which is fine.
- 03:36Arms like the valuators
- 03:38really should have no current
- 03:39or direct relationship with you
- 03:41and
- 03:42they should be considering themselves
- 03:44to be impartial or unbiased
- 03:46judges of your case
- 03:48for promotion.
- 03:49Having said that, it's always
- 03:51preferable I think
- 03:53for people who might be
- 03:54serving as arms length referees
- 03:56to know who you are.
- 03:57That isn't always the case
- 03:59and it doesn't have to
- 04:00be, but
- 04:01in our experience that people
- 04:02have at least like met
- 04:03you at professional meetings or
- 04:05maybe
- 04:07been on a committee with
- 04:07you, their likelihood of of
- 04:09writing a letter kind of
- 04:10increases and if they they
- 04:11have no idea who you
- 04:13are,
- 04:14but that's fine to include
- 04:15some people who you've never
- 04:17met as well.
- 04:19There are a number of
- 04:20ways,
- 04:21people may know you that
- 04:22do not
- 04:23preclude there being,
- 04:25considered arms length referees and
- 04:27I will spend a little
- 04:29bit more time on that
- 04:30in a few slides.
- 04:32So on our website, we
- 04:33have a bunch of different,
- 04:36files or documents
- 04:38related to this.
- 04:40And before I summarize some
- 04:41of the the definitions of
- 04:42evaluators, I just wanted to
- 04:44make people aware of these.
- 04:46You can go on our
- 04:47website and read these
- 04:49through. I'm I'm gonna summarize
- 04:50some of this today,
- 04:52but I'd say if you're
- 04:53going to be reviewed for
- 04:54promotion
- 04:55for,
- 04:56like for what would be
- 04:57January first two thousand seventeen,
- 05:00I really strongly advise you
- 05:02to review all of the
- 05:03the materials on the website
- 05:05as you start thinking about
- 05:06who's going to be writing
- 05:07letters.
- 05:09The proceed the procedure document
- 05:10we have is is longer.
- 05:12It's a bit more focused
- 05:13on guiding
- 05:14faculty affairs staff with this
- 05:16process but,
- 05:17might be worth, faculty reviewing
- 05:19as well.
- 05:20And then there's a shorter
- 05:22guidance document that helps you
- 05:24decide whether someone might be
- 05:26non arms length or arms
- 05:27length.
- 05:28And then there are three
- 05:29existing forms,
- 05:31that have also been revised
- 05:32which I'll show you parts
- 05:33of and some coming slides.
- 05:36In addition a few years
- 05:37ago,
- 05:39we revised
- 05:40these, email letter solicitations
- 05:43that we send out to
- 05:44evaluators,
- 05:45that invite people to evaluate
- 05:47you on the track and
- 05:48the rank that you're being,
- 05:50considered for and I'll I'll
- 05:51show examples of that in
- 05:53a minute.
- 05:55So as I mentioned, there's
- 05:56typically an expectation that a
- 05:58referee,
- 05:59is at or above the
- 06:00rank you are being proposed
- 06:02for for promotion.
- 06:04There are some exceptions to
- 06:06this. For example,
- 06:08leaders at the National Institutes
- 06:10of Health or
- 06:11executive leaders of major organizations
- 06:14in your field or senior
- 06:16scientists at institutes or industry,
- 06:18who do not have a
- 06:20professor appointment
- 06:21are allowed and the guidelines
- 06:23that are on the website,
- 06:25spell this out and indicate
- 06:27that there really shouldn't be
- 06:28more than two
- 06:30of these people for most
- 06:31tracks.
- 06:39There's a couple of documents
- 06:41that are used in the
- 06:42review process
- 06:44that,
- 06:45these two questions appear on.
- 06:48And they are really the
- 06:49overarching
- 06:50principles of what Yale and
- 06:52most other institutions
- 06:53mean by,
- 06:54an impartial
- 06:56or arms length referee versus
- 06:59a non arms length or
- 07:00a favorably
- 07:02biased
- 07:03referee, if you will. The
- 07:05first is, does the referee
- 07:07have a past or present
- 07:09professional or personal relationship with
- 07:11you,
- 07:12that could impact their actual
- 07:14or their perceived ability to
- 07:15provide an impartial review?
- 07:17And then could that referee
- 07:19or perhaps the program where
- 07:21they are,
- 07:22be perceived as benefited benefiting
- 07:25from a successful or unsuccessful
- 07:27outcome of your review?
- 07:29So if either of these
- 07:30questions as you're going through
- 07:31your list you you come
- 07:33up with a yes answer,
- 07:35then usually
- 07:36that referee,
- 07:38should be thought of as
- 07:39being a non arm's length
- 07:40referee.
- 07:41If both are no,
- 07:43then they're probably an arm's
- 07:45length referee, and if you
- 07:47have any uncertainty about it
- 07:48one way or the other,
- 07:49it's always worth consulting with,
- 07:52faculty colleagues or with our
- 07:54office about,
- 07:56which they may be.
- 07:59So this is a list
- 08:00of the typical characteristics
- 08:02of arms length referees. This
- 08:04this,
- 08:05document is on the website.
- 08:09And generally,
- 08:11arms length evaluators have no
- 08:13current direct relationship with you,
- 08:16and would consider themselves as
- 08:17I said to be impartial
- 08:18or unbiased judges of your
- 08:20case for promotion.
- 08:22As I've mentioned before, it's
- 08:24it's it's usually best if
- 08:26those arms length referees kinda
- 08:28know who you are or
- 08:29maybe have met you,
- 08:30because it increases their chances
- 08:32of writing letter but they
- 08:33don't have to know you.
- 08:35And then so this is
- 08:36really a list of,
- 08:37from the guidance document on
- 08:39the website of,
- 08:41what we consider character typical,
- 08:43characteristics
- 08:44of what could be considered
- 08:45an arm's length referee. So
- 08:47obviously, they if they've never
- 08:49known you
- 08:50or met or trained or
- 08:52worked with you,
- 08:53they'd be arm's length. But
- 08:55there are also many ways
- 08:56in which an arms length
- 08:57referee,
- 08:59may may know you or
- 09:00have,
- 09:01have worked with you in
- 09:02some way,
- 09:04but they'd still be considered
- 09:06impartial. So
- 09:08people who've read your work,
- 09:10people you've interacted with at
- 09:12meetings,
- 09:13people that you've served together
- 09:14on committees, or if you've
- 09:16done peer reviews for an
- 09:18editor of a journal,
- 09:21or done other kinds of
- 09:22peer reviewing,
- 09:23or participated,
- 09:25you know, as
- 09:26a presenter within a symposium,
- 09:28typically those are gonna be
- 09:30allowable as arm's length referees.
- 09:33If you've co presented with
- 09:35them at meetings or have
- 09:37published with them, then they're
- 09:38not, but just being,
- 09:40kind of working with people
- 09:41in the same space doesn't
- 09:43make someone,
- 09:44non arms length of ref
- 09:45referees.
- 09:47But for the most part,
- 09:47this is gonna be a
- 09:48group that's evaluating you,
- 09:51on your contributions
- 09:53based on the documents that
- 09:55get sent to them without
- 09:56also having knowledge of of
- 09:58of of very much knowledge
- 10:00of of who you are.
- 10:02So that's why we really
- 10:03emphasize in some of our
- 10:04other talks,
- 10:05you know, high quality,
- 10:07well organized
- 10:09CV and CV part two,
- 10:12and other kinds of documents.
- 10:15Non arms length evaluators have
- 10:16worked directly with you, currently
- 10:19or in the recent past
- 10:20in some capacity.
- 10:22And as I said, they're
- 10:22generally gonna be positively biased
- 10:24in favor of, you're being
- 10:26promoted. They're people that
- 10:28have worked closely with you.
- 10:29Their opinions about you obviously
- 10:31are valuable, but they're typically,
- 10:33you know, gonna write a
- 10:34fairly positive letter.
- 10:36So these are people like,
- 10:38you know, people that you've
- 10:38co authored manuscripts
- 10:40with or if you've co
- 10:42presented
- 10:43a paper,
- 10:44or or or co kind
- 10:46of created a panel discussion,
- 10:49if you've co edited a
- 10:50book with them,
- 10:52if you wrote a book
- 10:53chapter for somebody else, that's
- 10:56that typically is gonna be
- 10:58fine as an arm's length
- 10:59referee, but if you're the
- 11:00co editor of a book
- 11:01or your co author of
- 11:02a chapter obviously
- 11:04that's gonna be non arm's
- 11:05length.
- 11:06Co instructors of courses,
- 11:10research collaborators on grants,
- 11:13supervisors,
- 11:14mentors, mentees, faculty at the
- 11:16same institution. All of these
- 11:18are typically,
- 11:20considered,
- 11:21non arms length
- 11:24referees with some exceptions, which
- 11:26I'll kind of go through
- 11:27now.
- 11:29After I had conducted this
- 11:31peer benchmark
- 11:33peer benchmarking project a few
- 11:35years ago,
- 11:37just to see how other
- 11:38peer institutions were,
- 11:41considering these these letters, you
- 11:43know, and how that's evolved
- 11:44over time. We made some
- 11:45modifications
- 11:46to how we consider arms
- 11:48length and non arms length
- 11:50referees,
- 11:51where we thought we were
- 11:52being maybe a bit too,
- 11:54restrictive.
- 11:55So as again, assuming that
- 11:57those two overarching questions I
- 11:59mentioned before
- 12:00are answered no, meaning the
- 12:02person considers themselves in partial
- 12:04or wouldn't or their institution
- 12:06wouldn't benefit from your promotion.
- 12:09Assuming those answers are no,
- 12:11if the only relationships that
- 12:13you've had with referees
- 12:15are as co contributors
- 12:17to
- 12:17kind of large either multi
- 12:19authored projects or multi contributor
- 12:23guidance documents or things like
- 12:25that,
- 12:26and you're one of more
- 12:28than twenty five contributors to
- 12:30that,
- 12:31that they they can be
- 12:32considered an arms length referee.
- 12:34We do see this as
- 12:35people particularly are are engaged
- 12:37in large collaborative research projects
- 12:40or large collaborative
- 12:41consensus guideline
- 12:43development. If that's your only
- 12:45relationship
- 12:46with them, they can can
- 12:48be considered at arms length,
- 12:50even though your name is
- 12:51sort of appearing in the
- 12:52same author list.
- 12:54So we we we call
- 12:55that limited in scope,
- 12:57and usually it means that
- 12:59they can do an impartial
- 13:00review.
- 13:01The other allowance we make,
- 13:03are for certain relationships
- 13:05which otherwise would be considered
- 13:07non arms length but because
- 13:09there's they they are distant
- 13:11in time,
- 13:13that we will consider them,
- 13:15arms length referees for a
- 13:16certain number of of categories.
- 13:19So in general, if ten
- 13:20or more years have elapsed,
- 13:23since you have served in
- 13:25one of these this is
- 13:26that same non arms length
- 13:27referee list as before but
- 13:29I bolded in italics
- 13:31the categories where
- 13:33if you've had this relationship
- 13:35with them, but it's greater
- 13:36than ten years ago,
- 13:38they can be considered,
- 13:40arms length.
- 13:42The ones that are unbolded
- 13:44are ones that, you know,
- 13:45once someone has served in
- 13:47that role for you or
- 13:48has had that relationship with
- 13:49you, they they are always
- 13:51gonna be considered non arm's
- 13:52length.
- 13:53A thesis or,
- 13:55advisor from your graduate school
- 13:57or from your medical school
- 13:59has a vested interest in
- 14:01your success, and so they
- 14:02are always gonna be, considered
- 14:05non arms length. You can
- 14:06use them, but they're they're
- 14:07not gonna be thought of
- 14:08as being,
- 14:09impartial.
- 14:16So this is a form,
- 14:17that we send out,
- 14:20when we solicit letters of
- 14:21evaluation.
- 14:23And if you're going up
- 14:24for associate professor,
- 14:26your department will do that
- 14:27letter solicitation.
- 14:29If you're going up for
- 14:30professor,
- 14:32the school does it. Our,
- 14:34see you know Karen and
- 14:35Ingrid are both on the
- 14:36call today.
- 14:38They will be the ones
- 14:39who are doing that on
- 14:40behalf of the Dean.
- 14:42But when we send those
- 14:44requests out, there's a form
- 14:46that, we ask all evaluators
- 14:48to complete in addition to
- 14:50providing the letter. This is
- 14:52just a portion of the
- 14:53form.
- 14:54But as you can see
- 14:55it leads off with those
- 14:57two
- 14:58foundational questions which help,
- 15:00think through whether someone is
- 15:02impartial or or or or
- 15:04could be perceived as benefiting
- 15:05from your advancement.
- 15:07And then it essentially lists
- 15:09most of those items that
- 15:11I had on those two
- 15:12prior forms
- 15:13and asks,
- 15:15the referee to check off
- 15:17relationships that may have had
- 15:19with you.
- 15:20And you can see in
- 15:21the, parentheses for these two
- 15:22sample items how we try
- 15:24to get at this issue
- 15:26of,
- 15:27someone who maybe has had
- 15:28a limited in scope relationship
- 15:30with you,
- 15:32or has had a,
- 15:34essentially a non arm's length
- 15:35relationship with you, but
- 15:37that goes back greater than
- 15:38ten years. So these are
- 15:40just a couple of sample
- 15:41items. So we really,
- 15:43not all referees will send
- 15:45this back to us, unfortunately.
- 15:47And so sometimes we have
- 15:48to kinda read through their
- 15:49letter to make sure that
- 15:50they don't say something that
- 15:52would,
- 15:53make us question whether they
- 15:54are arm's length or not.
- 15:56So this form kinda goes
- 15:58out. And, obviously, a a
- 15:59nonarm's length person is gonna
- 16:01be checking off, you know,
- 16:02a number of these boxes.
- 16:06One of the other, I
- 16:07think important
- 16:09changes that we made,
- 16:11to the guidelines for the
- 16:13led letters, a few years
- 16:15ago.
- 16:15For years, for for as
- 16:17long as Julie Buchanan has
- 16:19been
- 16:20been running the office we've
- 16:22had guide we had guidelines
- 16:25that would allow you to
- 16:26have some of your non
- 16:27arms length letter writers be
- 16:29from other departments than your
- 16:30own but you were not
- 16:32allowed to have,
- 16:34referees from your own department.
- 16:36And kind of based on
- 16:37that, peer benchmarking,
- 16:40sort of project that I
- 16:41did. We found that, a
- 16:43lot of our peer institutions
- 16:45were were
- 16:48allowing a certain number from
- 16:50people who worked directly with
- 16:52you and and particularly
- 16:54for
- 16:55faculty who have significant clinical,
- 16:58or educational
- 16:59responsibilities.
- 17:01And that's because sometimes though
- 17:03your external
- 17:04letter writers
- 17:05at other institutions
- 17:07and they'll say it right
- 17:08in their letter, I I
- 17:09don't have,
- 17:11I I I I'm not
- 17:12able to evaluate their clinical
- 17:14skills or
- 17:15other than seeing them present
- 17:17at a conference once, I
- 17:18really can't evaluate their teaching.
- 17:21So so opening this up
- 17:23a little bit to evaluations
- 17:25from faculty who know you
- 17:26really well from your department
- 17:29was really important for,
- 17:31for some of the tracks.
- 17:32The restriction
- 17:33against,
- 17:36letters from within your department
- 17:38still is the case if
- 17:40you're going up on the
- 17:40clinician scientist investigator
- 17:42or traditional track.
- 17:45And and also if you're
- 17:46going up on the research
- 17:47ranks or the adjunct ranks,
- 17:49those you can have them
- 17:50from people outside your department
- 17:52but not from within the
- 17:54department.
- 17:55However, for faculty again who
- 17:57have significant clinical or educational
- 17:59responsibilities and and we think
- 18:01of those as being either
- 18:02on the academic clinician track
- 18:04or the clinician educator scholar
- 18:06track.
- 18:07We encourage people to get,
- 18:09to have
- 18:10a maximum of two of
- 18:12these letters of the non
- 18:14arms length letters,
- 18:16being from colleagues who are
- 18:17gonna comment on your,
- 18:19clinical and or educational
- 18:21skills.
- 18:22So for those two tracks,
- 18:24ladder tracks and for our
- 18:27voluntary clinical tracks,
- 18:29you can have a couple
- 18:30of these letters from,
- 18:33from from folks in your
- 18:34department.
- 18:36They have to they have
- 18:37to meet those other criteria
- 18:38of being at a higher
- 18:39rank though. That's an important
- 18:41piece of this. The other
- 18:42piece of this, which is
- 18:43sometimes we encourage people to
- 18:44think carefully about
- 18:46these folks is if they
- 18:48write a letter of evaluation
- 18:50for you, they shouldn't be
- 18:52the one who's advising you
- 18:54on who,
- 18:56to select as referees on
- 18:58this form that I'll go
- 18:59over in a minute.
- 19:00And they should really not
- 19:03be participating
- 19:04in the department
- 19:05committee
- 19:07discussion and vote about your
- 19:08case.
- 19:10Their,
- 19:11their letter really is the
- 19:13most important evaluation
- 19:15and it's it's given a
- 19:16lot of weight.
- 19:17But for them to also
- 19:19be contributing to the committee
- 19:20discussion,
- 19:23it this sort of, kind
- 19:24of adds to it. So
- 19:26they can be in the
- 19:26meeting,
- 19:28and, you know, they can
- 19:29kinda be there for that,
- 19:30but they're they're really not
- 19:31supposed to be contributing or
- 19:33or voting on that.
- 19:36So I'm just gonna walk
- 19:38through a couple of the
- 19:39forms and this is one
- 19:41that you will,
- 19:42is is on our website
- 19:43and you would kind of
- 19:45review carefully,
- 19:46depending on which track and
- 19:49rank you are being,
- 19:51reviewed for.
- 19:52Again, we did make a
- 19:53couple of relatively minor changes
- 19:56to
- 19:57the number and types of
- 19:58evaluation
- 19:59required for some of the
- 20:00tracks.
- 20:01But I'm just gonna I'll
- 20:02start out with these three
- 20:04tracks which we sometimes call
- 20:05the research intensive tracks.
- 20:08We did not make any
- 20:10changes
- 20:10from how we've had this
- 20:12for a number of years,
- 20:13to the number of referees
- 20:15that are solicited.
- 20:17How many the minimum number
- 20:19of arms length versus non
- 20:20arms length that we need
- 20:22depending on if you're going
- 20:23up for associate professor
- 20:25or for full professor. So
- 20:27as you can see for
- 20:28for all three of these
- 20:29tracks for full professor,
- 20:32we still need,
- 20:33six referees,
- 20:35that we would solicit
- 20:37that would be recommended by
- 20:38your department usually in consultation
- 20:41with you.
- 20:43Most departments do it that
- 20:44way. You know, the the
- 20:45chair or some other leader
- 20:46or your mentor,
- 20:48might have some ideas about
- 20:50who would be good people
- 20:51to write letters about you,
- 20:52but you can have input
- 20:54into that. And if they
- 20:55suggested someone that you know
- 20:58would just not write a
- 20:59fair or positive letter, you
- 21:01can tell them I really
- 21:02would rather you not include
- 21:03that person. So you have
- 21:05input into this.
- 21:06But there are there are
- 21:07supposed to be a number
- 21:09of referees that your department,
- 21:11recommends and all of those
- 21:12department,
- 21:14recommended
- 21:14referees are should be arms
- 21:16length.
- 21:18So we solicit six of
- 21:19those and then we also
- 21:21solicit six that you would
- 21:23be primarily responsible for identifying.
- 21:27And we ask, for two
- 21:28arms length and and four
- 21:30arms length letters. And then
- 21:31to complete, the review for
- 21:33professor, we need a minimum
- 21:35of eight back,
- 21:37with, six of those being,
- 21:40arms length.
- 21:41We have, haven't and and
- 21:43don't require
- 21:45quite as many letters for
- 21:46associate professor,
- 21:48term reviews.
- 21:49So it's somewhat,
- 21:51less onerous for for those
- 21:52reviews. But again, we also
- 21:54for these research intensive tracks,
- 21:56we do need,
- 21:59a good balance of arms
- 22:00length and non arms length
- 22:01referees.
- 22:05And then for what we
- 22:06sometimes call the clinically intensive
- 22:08tracks, clinician, educator, scholar, and
- 22:10academic clinician,
- 22:12we for the professor reviews,
- 22:15we also require,
- 22:17that the department supply us
- 22:19with six arms length referees
- 22:21and then five arms length
- 22:22referees for associate professors.
- 22:25Just like the three other
- 22:26tracks.
- 22:27The modification that we made
- 22:28a few years ago were
- 22:30on the,
- 22:31letters that you as the
- 22:32candidate would be recommending in
- 22:34terms of how many arms
- 22:35length versus non arms length.
- 22:38We didn't change that for
- 22:40the clinician educator scholar professor.
- 22:42So just like for the
- 22:44research intensive tracks, we require
- 22:47a similar amount of
- 22:49arms length and non arms
- 22:50length
- 22:52referees that are suggested and
- 22:54received.
- 22:55For the associate professor, we've
- 22:57kind of reduced the number
- 22:58of arms length
- 23:00and increase the number of
- 23:01non arms length that from
- 23:03before
- 23:04for the associate professor reviews
- 23:06and then reduce them somewhat
- 23:08further for
- 23:10the arms length referee requirements
- 23:12for the academic clinician
- 23:14reviews. Just, you know, based
- 23:15on our experience,
- 23:17those
- 23:19letters sometimes can be quite
- 23:21hard to get
- 23:22for academic clinicians, particularly if
- 23:24they're academic clinicians who,
- 23:26you know, because there's no
- 23:27scholarship,
- 23:28requirement.
- 23:29Their their work has not
- 23:30gotten out into the field
- 23:32in the same way that
- 23:33it has for other faculty.
- 23:34So the arms length referees
- 23:36for
- 23:37academic clinician reviews,
- 23:39can be a little bit
- 23:40more challenged. So we did
- 23:41some modification
- 23:42on those, but we we
- 23:44still do, and you can
- 23:45see for associate professor, we
- 23:47need six letters and two
- 23:49of them have to be,
- 23:51arm's length.
- 23:56And then just, just because
- 23:57I know we we typically
- 23:59get a fair number of
- 24:00folks on these seminars who
- 24:02are on the research ranks,
- 24:04for research
- 24:06adjunct and voluntary ranks or
- 24:08what we sometimes call the
- 24:09non ladder ranks,
- 24:10we essentially just tried to
- 24:12make the number consistent
- 24:14across all three of those
- 24:15ranks.
- 24:17So for the senior ranks,
- 24:19whether that's
- 24:20senior research scientist professor,
- 24:22adjunct, or clinical professor,
- 24:24we ask that the departments,
- 24:27departments recommend four arms length
- 24:29and that the candidate,
- 24:31can recommend three arms length
- 24:33or non arms length.
- 24:35And then for those senior
- 24:36ranks we require four letters
- 24:38come back,
- 24:40one of which has to
- 24:41be arms length.
- 24:43And then for the mid
- 24:44ranks,
- 24:45research scientist, associate professor adjunct,
- 24:48and associate clinical professor.
- 24:50We do solicit arm's length
- 24:52referees, but we can move
- 24:54forward with a review as
- 24:55long as we have three
- 24:56letters come back that are
- 24:58either arm's length or non
- 24:59arm's length.
- 25:02And again, for the voluntary
- 25:03clinical
- 25:05ranks,
- 25:06the,
- 25:07they can a couple of
- 25:08them can be from your
- 25:09own from your own department.
- 25:13So this is a piece
- 25:14of
- 25:15one of the important forms
- 25:17that we have people fill
- 25:19out. I'd say this is
- 25:20probably a form that
- 25:22creates,
- 25:23you know, some anxiety for
- 25:24faculty to create.
- 25:26It really is one that
- 25:27you should you know find
- 25:29a couple of colleagues in
- 25:30your,
- 25:31more senior colleagues in your
- 25:33department to kind of help
- 25:34you think through who would
- 25:35be
- 25:37good people for
- 25:38to be listed as your
- 25:40referees.
- 25:41And on this form you
- 25:43list the names, ranks,
- 25:45institutions,
- 25:47email addresses,
- 25:50and other kinds of contact
- 25:51information
- 25:52for all of your referees.
- 25:55In the fifth column of
- 25:56the table,
- 25:57we would ask you
- 25:59to describe any relationship you
- 26:02have with the potential referee.
- 26:03So if it's arms length,
- 26:05I don't think even think
- 26:06you have to complete that.
- 26:08But if it if it
- 26:09is someone that is arm's
- 26:11length
- 26:12because,
- 26:15there's been that,
- 26:16they they meet that criteria
- 26:18because it's been greater than
- 26:19ten years, Sometimes putting that
- 26:21explanation in there is a
- 26:23is is helpful. So you
- 26:24might say,
- 26:26this was a secondary mentor
- 26:28of mine,
- 26:30from,
- 26:31from medical school.
- 26:33Or this person taught a
- 26:35course that I was in
- 26:36when I was in graduate
- 26:37school and it was fifteen
- 26:39years ago. So you would
- 26:40include that within there.
- 26:44The other thing which isn't
- 26:45on this form is we
- 26:47ask people,
- 26:49I would say particularly on
- 26:51the clinically intensive tracks,
- 26:53to
- 26:54include an optional list of
- 26:56referees that we can solicit
- 26:58if,
- 26:59we don't get enough come
- 27:01back in our initial solicitation.
- 27:04That sometimes happens and
- 27:06so we really ask people
- 27:08upfront
- 27:08in addition to the the
- 27:10minimum required that you you
- 27:12have for this department section
- 27:14and the candidate section
- 27:16on that,
- 27:17last page of an optional
- 27:19list
- 27:20is include some additional,
- 27:22arms length and non arms
- 27:24length referees, particularly the arms
- 27:25length ones. If you can
- 27:27come up with some additional
- 27:28names,
- 27:29because again for the
- 27:31I'd say particularly for the
- 27:32academic clinician and clinician educator
- 27:34scholar tracks, sometimes those can
- 27:36be harder
- 27:37to get people to respond
- 27:38to. So if we have
- 27:39some extras,
- 27:41then our office or your
- 27:43department can go out for
- 27:44those right away. Some some
- 27:46departments
- 27:47just go out for everything
- 27:48that's on on the list
- 27:50right away,
- 27:52in hopes that, you know,
- 27:53we'll get enough back to
- 27:54be able to move forward
- 27:55for that. We went to
- 27:57that a couple years ago
- 27:58because we were finding that
- 28:01if we didn't have it,
- 28:02our going back to the
- 28:04department and saying could you
- 28:05talk to the faculty member
- 28:07to see if they've got
- 28:08some more names and and
- 28:09doing that back and forth
- 28:10just added to the anxiety
- 28:11level because
- 28:13because, you know, the the
- 28:14faculty member knew, you know,
- 28:16know knew that
- 28:18the list that they had
- 28:19provided had not really,
- 28:21generated all that they needed.
- 28:22So
- 28:23the optional names allows us
- 28:25to just kind of do
- 28:26that and move forward with
- 28:27that without,
- 28:29adding to the anxiety level.
- 28:33And then, just last slide
- 28:35to,
- 28:36before we kinda open it
- 28:37up for questions.
- 28:39When we send out the
- 28:41solicitation
- 28:42letter with that
- 28:44evaluator
- 28:45relationship form that had all
- 28:47has has all the check
- 28:48boxes.
- 28:49We in that solicitation
- 28:51letter, it is specific
- 28:54to the rank and the
- 28:55track. So there's there's different
- 28:57templates. I think we have
- 28:58all Julie, I think we
- 28:59have all of these on
- 28:59the website. So people are
- 29:01interested in it. You may
- 29:02have you may have to,
- 29:04sign in with your NetID.
- 29:06I can't remember if it's
- 29:07behind,
- 29:08that sign in. But you
- 29:10can see what goes out
- 29:11and I think some and
- 29:12again, I would encourage people
- 29:13to look at those letters,
- 29:16these template letters because,
- 29:18this is what is going
- 29:19to be asked of your
- 29:21evaluators.
- 29:22So I just put up
- 29:23this one which is for
- 29:24professor on the clinician educator
- 29:26scholar track.
- 29:28So you can see that
- 29:29we're really asking for
- 29:31for things that are really
- 29:33focused on all three mission
- 29:36areas.
- 29:37Since the clinician educator scholar
- 29:39track people have to excel
- 29:41in all three of those
- 29:42areas.
- 29:43And I also put this
- 29:44one up there just because,
- 29:47when one's going up for
- 29:49professor on this track
- 29:51you can see that the
- 29:52scholarship criteria
- 29:55is listed first
- 29:57and we just want people
- 29:58to be aware of that
- 29:59when people are going up
- 30:00for professor on this particular
- 30:02track
- 30:04scholarship and being having a
- 30:06national reputation for your scholarship
- 30:09is really an important consideration.
- 30:11And in ways that's not
- 30:13it's a little bit different
- 30:14when people are going up
- 30:15for associate professor on the
- 30:17c e on that clinician
- 30:18educator scholar
- 30:19track. There as long as
- 30:21you're sort of you've got
- 30:22some trajectory,
- 30:24and I think scholarship in
- 30:25that template is listed third
- 30:28in that. So people,
- 30:30referees are asked to talk
- 30:32about your clinical
- 30:33excellence, your educational
- 30:34excellence and and then your
- 30:35scholarly,
- 30:38you know, excellence.
- 30:39For professor, it gets flipped
- 30:41a bit. So they still
- 30:42need to be commenting on
- 30:44your clinical and educational excellence.
- 30:47But scholarship really gets a
- 30:49lot of weight in these
- 30:50professor CES track reviews.
- 30:53They'll they'll all they're also
- 30:55asked to comment on,
- 30:58any leadership or administrative roles
- 31:00that you have
- 31:01and also comment on,
- 31:03your professionalism
- 31:05and
- 31:06ethics and any
- 31:09professional conduct issues that hardly
- 31:11ever comes up
- 31:13in a letter of evaluation.
- 31:15Usually
- 31:16the people who agree to
- 31:17write a letter for you
- 31:18are writing
- 31:21rather glowingly about you or
- 31:23at least positively if not
- 31:25glowingly.
- 31:27It's pretty rare
- 31:29for us to see a
- 31:30letter that
- 31:32is
- 31:34just quite negative about someone.
- 31:36I'd say we
- 31:38see
- 31:39maybe two of those a
- 31:41year. It's really unusual.
- 31:44Most
- 31:45academics,
- 31:46I think have the decency.
- 31:47If they don't think highly
- 31:49of you, they're just gonna
- 31:51decline writing the letter.
- 31:53They'll usually say I'm too
- 31:55busy to do this or
- 31:56whatever. But it's it's,
- 31:59it's it's helpful that they
- 32:00do that because
- 32:02a really damning letter is
- 32:04is is a problem. We
- 32:05do get letters that come
- 32:07back,
- 32:08where,
- 32:10you know, it's not like
- 32:11flat out negative, but there's
- 32:13a bit of
- 32:14a sort of damning with
- 32:15faint praise,
- 32:17as and sometimes we get
- 32:18those that that come back
- 32:20where the evaluator just doesn't
- 32:22seem to have, you know,
- 32:23the ability to speak glowingly.
- 32:26Most of the letters that
- 32:27come back are gonna be
- 32:28really positive and and help
- 32:30people with their promotions.